What is the Telangana movement about? The grievances.

Should there be a separate Telangana state or not? While expressing themselves in various ways, family, friends, and acquaintances from Andhra Pradesh sheepishly admit that they are speaking without much depth. The events of the last few years seem to have had a stupefying effect on many of us. It might be useful to set aside the question of separation for a bit and, instead, ask a more primary question “Why is there a Telangana movement?”. Apart from the knowing and willful indifference of a few, there is a general tendency to blame it all on immoral politicians or crazed ideologues. This is not to say that such people do not exist, for they do, and have promoted nothing short of a persecution complex among a section of vulnerable Telanganis. However, equating the movement with them is a mistake. The effort has to be made to comprehend what they are channeling successfully. For those truly looking for the answer, there has to be a further question – “Why has the movement lasted, in one form or another, for more than 4 decades?” Whatever their merits or demerits, all answers will necessarily be based on the grievances.

I have tried to provide one kind of answer. There are no new research findings or insights. Exposition is brief. The list of grievances is not exhaustive. The attempt is to present some of the important ones in an easily accessible manner, along with references for those who would like to verify for themselves, and to stay away from exaggeration.

A. At a glance

A list of well established grievances behind the demand for a separate Telangana state is as follows:
– A history of broken agreements and violated safeguards
– Injustice in Government jobs
– Injustice in river water allotment and irrigation
– Cultural denigration and suppression
– Partiality in educational endowments and infrastructure
– Political domination
– Political manipulation and cheating
– Unethical and undemocratic attempts to subdue movement

I will now present brief notes and references that establish each of these. As a starting point, even as the methodology, sources, and conclusions of the Sri Krishna Committee (SKC) have been hotly contested, it is instructive to keep the following observation in mind:

““The grievances of the people of Telangana, such as non-implementation of some of the key decisions included in the Gentleman‟s Agreement (1956), certain amount of neglect in implementation of water and irrigation schemes, inadequate provision for education infrastructure (excluding Hyderabad), and the undue delay in the implementation of the Presidential order on public employment etc., have contributed to the felt psyche of discrimination and domination, with the issue attaining an emotional pitch. The continuing demand, therefore, for a separate Telangana, the Committee felt, has some merit and is not entirely unjustified.” Pg 453, Sri Krishna Committee report.

B. Getting a grip on grievances:

I. History of broken agreements and violated safeguards:
(i) Gentlemen’s Agreement, 1956 [1]
– broken with respect to sharing of power, and safeguards on revenue surplus and jobs
(ii) Government Order 36, 1969 (GO 36)
– Supreme Court upheld Mulki rules as constitutional. Led to Jai Andhra Movement in 1972.
(iii) Six Point Formula, 1973 (SPF) [2]
– broken with respect to job safeguards, HOD appointments, accelerated development of backward areas.
(iv) Government Order 610, 1985 (GO 610)
– for remedying misallocation of jobs, to be implemented by March 1986, not implemented.
(v) Justice Girglani Commission Report, 2004 [3]
– to study violations of G.O. 610, SPF, and Presidential Orders. Major deviations reported, remedial action recommended. Government passed orders in 2006, not implemented till date.

II. Injustice in Government jobs: The Justice Girglani Commission report (2004) identified tens of thousands of government jobs that were misallocated to non-Telangana persons at the expense of Telangana persons. When duration is taken into account, this translates to thousands of crores of loss of income for Telangana families. While the deviations exist across the board, the proportion of Telangana persons in higher level positions is even lower. These are in violation of SPF (1973) and disregard GO 610 (1985). These have been conceded by the Sri Krishna Committee (SKC) report, without paying deeper attention to the deviations reported by Justice Girglani.

Complaints about this misallocation were raised in 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and 00’s. Successive governments either ignored them or when forced, deputed committees for study. Each time the studies concluded misallocations were indeed happening and recommended remedial measures. Successive governments failed to implement these, and the complaints have continued through the decades. Consequently, there is a loss of trust that justice will be done in a united state.

Such state of apparent absence of accountability enforcing devices or agencies has tended to create an attitude of indifference, some callousness with a sense of immunity and impunity in the implementation of the Presidential Order over the last almost three decades.” Pg 31, Volume I, Girglani Commission Report, 2004. The Presidential Order relates to putting into effect some clauses of the SPF.

Finance (SMPC) Department G.O.Ms.No.24 dated 09-01-2002 shows 17,161 in the workcharged establishment in Irrigation Department alone. In addition to these the Commission has received following figures: (i) Roads & Buildings Department 5,849 (ii) Panchayati Raj Engineering Department 7,860. These three figures alone account for 40,870. Public Health Engineering Department and Tribal Welfare Engineering Department, Hyderabad Metropolitan Water Supply & Sewerage Board have not yet given figures. In 1994 when Act 2/94 was passed, in the white paper issued by State Government the figure of workcharged employees was less than this figure. This would show that far from vanishing with the completion of work this work force has become a permanent part of the State‟s work force and should have been treated as “civil posts” under the Presidential Order.” Finding 84, Page 132,Volume I, Girglani Commission Report, 2004.

References: [3], [4]

III. Injustice in water allotment and and irrigation: The Telangana region has not received the proper share of river waters and irrigation projects. The catchment area of Telangana for Krishna and Godavari rivers is 68.5% and 69% respectively. The allocation, dependent on several factors, is much less. The problem is that the actual receipt is even lesser. Overall, major irrigation projects (paid for from Government funds) have benefited Seemandhra region at the neglect and loss for Telangana. Conceded by the Sri Krishna Committee report, but with a lack of proper analysis and explanation of the numbers..

On Pg 189 of the SKC report, the area under irrigation in the two regions is as follows

Irrigation type Telangana (lakh hec.) Coastal Andhra(lakh hec.)
Canal 2.5 13.0
Tank 2.0 2.5
Well 14.0 5.0

The figures look almost like a mirror image of each other! Well irrigation comes from private investment in digging or installing bore wells. Canal irrigation comes from Goverment funded projects. It is true that the Coastal region had a well developed irrigation system even before merger and some level of disparity can be explained by geological and historical factors. However, the numbers above need some explaining, and the SKC fails in this regard. When one compares the figures on Page 189 and Page 191 of the SKC report, while the trends for Coastal region are highly stable, well irrigation in Telangana has exploded in the last 20 years. So, there is a desperate need for water, which is not being provided for by irrigation projects, and farmers have been digging wells like there is no tomorrow. The situation is similar in Rayalaseema.

Experts have stressed [7] that the proper solution to this kind of imbalance is to have smaller and more effective irrigation projects which are implemented with local governments empowered to be in charge. This is what the Lok Satta Party is also emphasizing. However, as things stand, things are rigged at the top. Emphasizing the proper solution is good, but the disparity and injustice need to be widely acknowledged as well.

References: [4], [7]

IV. Cultural denigration and suppression:

(a) The social and cultural icons of Telangana have not been promoted adequately (in literature, history, naming of artifacts etc.) (Who are the most famous Telugus you know? Where are they from? Who fought for the culture and freedom of Telugus in Telangana?). This leads to heritage and identity erasure. Even though highly condemnable, incidents like breaking statues on Hussain Sagar are born out of this.
(b) Central Coastal Andhra dialect promoted as Modern Standard Telugu or Pramanika Bhasha. Over time, widespread belief and arrogance that this is ‘real’ and ‘higher’ Telugu. Telangana dialect looked down upon and not considered worth being published in literature. Writers told to ‘correct’ themselves and use the ‘proper’ Telugu. This is also true of dialects from other regions. See [6] and [8].
(c) Popular art such as films and television almost completely dominated by Standard Telugu. Films showing Telangana speakers mostly as villians, sidekicks, eve-teasers or comedians. This is also true to some extent of people from other regions.
(d) Stereotype belief that Telangana people are lazy, lacking in education, and refinement. Claims that Andhra people have taught agriculture to Telangana. Claims that Andhra people have developed Hyderabad. “Telangana people are often considered subservient and lazy….”, Pg 402, SKC report.

References: [4], [6], 8].

V. Partiality in educational endowments and infrastructure:

For the five year period 2004-09,
“The data received from the State Government shows (Appendix 3.16) that the combined amount released to government and aided colleges together is Rs. 93 crores in Telangana while it is 224 crores in coastal Andhra (with college going population similar to that in Telangana) and 91 crores in Rayalaseema (with population share being less than half that in Telangana).” Pg 161, SKC report. Appendix is a separate document.

The level of disparity is glaring. College level education impacts the training and job prospects of a significant number of students. Form the data provided by the SKC on several parameters relating to education, it emerges that such discrimination has not occurred across the board but might be limited to certain areas.

References: [4]

VI. Political domination: There has been no Chief Minister of AP from Telangana in the last 20 years. In the last 30 years, a Telangana person has been CM for only 1 year (M Chenna Reddy in 1989-90). In 55 years as a united state, a Telangana person has been CM for 10.5 years (19% of duration). Population and proportion of MLAs from the region is a bit more than 40% (all information easily available online). The agreement on appointing Deputy CMs for balance of power has not been honored. SKC noted the same.

The 119 Telangana MLAs (out of 294 for all of AP) need to take a major portion of the blame for their failure to protect the region’s interests. However, it does not cancel out the fact that political domination has lead to bias and failed to do justice to the agreements that are basis for the merger and continuance as single state, and to ensure fairness in allotment of resources.

VII. Political manipulation and cheating:

(a) Successive governments responding to complaints with appointment of Committees, passing GOs, and providing assurances of remedial action, without adequate seriousness or commitment to implementation.

(b) In the 2004 AP assembly elections, Congress party entered into an alliance with TRS, mentioning that ““the Congress Party recognizes the growing emotions and aspirations of the people in the Telangana region” and “there are many good reasons for Telangana formation” as part of their election manifesto. After a resounding victory in the elections, the party did not even bring in a discussion on the subject in the Assembly in its 5 year tenure. As Chief Minister Y.S. Rajashekhara Reddy’s comments began to show that the issue was firmly on the backburner, TRS broke the alliance in 2006. See Pg. 51, SKC report.

(c) In the 2009 AP Assembly elections, TDP had an alliance with TRS with the promise of supporting Telangana formation. The alliance could not garner a majority. In an all party meeting held on December 7, 2009, TDP reiterated its stand has not changed from 2009 manifesto and that it was absolutely committed to supporting a resolution on Telangana. In this meeting, of the other parties, PRP, BJP and CPI gave their assent for Separate Telangana formation. CPM expressed support for a United AP. MIM and Lok Satta remained non-committal or neutral. On the basis of this
majority consensus (whether or not it was a wise criterion is a separate question), the Central Government announced on December 9, 2009, that the process for formation of Telangana would commence. On the next day, December 10, both TDP and PRP reversed their position.

References: [5], [9], [10]

VIII. Unethical and undemocratic attempts to subdue movement:

In a secret chapter (Chapter 8 of the report) submitted to the Government of India, the SKC recommended unconstitutional methods to subdue the movement, including “softening” of TRS with inducements, making sure TDP stays away from discussions to prevent any kind of consensus, and using Seemandhra dominated media to manipulate the news in favor of maintaining status quo. This has been severely condemned by social activists, civil society and rights groups all over India as being unethical and undemocratic.

References: [6]

C. Tail piece

“..given the long-standing history of the demand for a separate state, the deep penetration of the sense of grievance and the widespread emotion around the issue, unless genuine steps are taken to address both real and perceived disparities, the demand is unlikely to go away permanently even if it is subdued temporarily.” pg 417, SKC report.

Should there be a separate Telangana or not? I don’t know, and don’t feel obliged to answer with a ‘yes’ or ‘no’. However, it is clear that some of the problems will go away with separation. Those who insist that separation is not the right solution must acknowledge the genuine grievances and convince the Telanganis that they have the specific solutions and commitment to address them. I, for one, feel that the time and opportunity has passed. In any case, the need to make the Telangana movement better understood will remain. People of all regions of Andhra Pradesh deserve to know.

References:
1. Gentlemen’s agreement (1956).
2. The Six Point Formula (1973).
3. Justice Girglani Committee report (2004): Volume I, Volume II, Volume III.
4. Justice Sri Krishna Committee (2010), Report, Appendix.
5. Meeting minutes of all party meeting on Dec 7, 2009.
6. Statement by Dr. Jayaprakash Narayan on SKC and cultural grievances of Telangana (2011).
7. Gautam Pingle, Irrigation in Telangana: The Rise and Fall of Tanks, EPW, 2011.
8. Telangana, Regional Identity, and the Telugu language, essay on the role of language in the discord among Telugu speakers (2011).
9. Chandra Babu Naidu’s statements on Dec 10, 2009.
10. Y.S. Rajashekhara Reddy’s comments on Telangana in 2006,

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33 Responses to What is the Telangana movement about? The grievances.

  1. A says:

    There are serious grievances on both sides. The million dollar question is how we tackle the grievances – Is it by splitting or being united and solving the problems of the people? Can we solve some of the problems one by one? 14(f) deletion was a good start. I think sane people on both sides should forget the positions for some time and try to address the grievances. If the educational endowment imbalance is true, then I believe it can be easily solved. Let us strive to find ways how this particular problem can be addressed.

  2. WglIte says:

    Very informative, all andhraites know this, just want to continue looting.
    ‘ Eru dataaka theppa tagaleyatam ‘ is part their life, even challenged Gentle Men Agreement in Supreme court saying it not bound and valid.

    • Sundeep says:

      The common people try to get jobs and advantage in whatever way they can, whether they are from Telangana, Andhra, Rayalaseema or anywhere else. They work very hard to build their lives and deserve the fruits. It is unfortunate that for someone else’s failure to enforce rules, they get the opportunity at the expense of another person. It is the responsibility of those in power and important positions to make sure that agreements and rules that are the basis for merger are followed properly to ensure justice.

      Yes, some Andhra leaders made mistakes out of selfishness and ignorance of the consequences of their actions on future generations. Many Telangana leaders also made mistakes and failed to protect the interests of the region. As much as it is wrong to say that regional bias has not created problems, it is wrong to attribute everything to it.

      Let us not forget all the things we have in common just because there are some differences.

  3. Aravind says:

    Sundeep…

    I am born and brought up in Telangana. However, I look at it differently. I agree that agreements were broken and there is cultural bias against Telangana in popular media, education. However, I also know Andhra and Rayalaseema are not developed either. There were no commissions or agreements to develop backward regions of Andhra and Seema but leaders there DID promise to solve problems and broke them consistently. Lot of districts are unrepresented in AP for the post of CM. Telangana had the distinction of having a PM that Andhra and Seema did not have. Congress leaders from Andhra could not stop Telangana protagonist Channa Reddy from becoming CM. Andhra region last had a CM when NTR was alive.

    P V Narasimha Rao, as a PM, did not do anything to create Telangana state. There was no demand or verdict from the people and he could contest and get elected in Nandyal with little opposition. As I remember, I did not hear about ANY emotional demand for Telangana in 1990s. Why did it start in 2001 and why is it a ‘movement’ in 2009? Isn’t there more political opportunism than GENUINE DEMAND FROM the people? People in Telangana are only reacting to historical baggage (‘forced’ merger) clubbed with underdevelopment and fell into a trap laid out by TRS. Was there no need/demand for a political party in 1980s and 1990s to realize aspirations of Telangana people? I am Loksatta supporter and I do NOT care if a new state is formed. I just do not see the need for it as the problem is with leadership and politics.

    We as a country did NOT abandon democracy because it did not solve people’s problems and leaders broke their promises. Reservations based on religion cannot be given because those communities feel deprived. The current form of state organization is on linguistic basis. As an Indian, I would ask the basis on which Telangana and other NEW states can be formed.Obviously, anyone who demands a state cannot be given. We need to have a yardstick to approve/reject a state. What would it be? If agreements are allowed to be broken in daylight and people don’t protest, why is it fault of someone else? Some job in Telangana is taken by a similar/poorer person in Andhra/Seema because govt allowed it. As a fellow citizen, can we not forgive him and ask him to keep his job, while safeguarding future jobs for the region using constitutional provisions? Finally, the new state should not be on the basis of stolen jobs, stolen water. We need better leaders, politics, public participation in democratic process. Allowing things to pass and raising a hue after years and years is not genuine movement that govt should bow to.

    • Srinivas says:

      Who to tell a victim to forgive fellow citizen and also ask him to keep other’s job got at his expense? This sounds nice and sweet in discussions. Would you and I do that? Today we don’t give up our temporary seat in RTC bus or train to elderly, do we?

      True, we need better leaders, like we need better wives, better husbands, better parents and better children too. But more than leaders we need accountable system of governance. Even if our leaders die our system stays and should continue to serve. Right now the state of governance is badly broken. However imperfect, the clamor for separate state is to create a different, and many hope, a better system of governance. People are fed with with status quo.

      And what is a genuine movement? Forget politicians, when even lawyers, doctors, teachers, students and government employees etc., are taking to roads in protest, what more needs to be seen to qualify as genuine movement?

      In a democracy, if elections do not decide such matters, what else will? Two elections were held with separate state as highlighted item in election manifestos, and responsible citizens have freedom to act and vote. While basis for separate state was already laid out, it is irresponsible to debate manifestos after votes are cast.

      After all state is an administrative, political unit to serve people of the country. People can and will form and reform states and many such states have been formed since independence. Arguing we should stop forming states because some have failed is not sound. Because some may not have given all expected outcomes, it is no reason to stop trying, but try better and more. In the end, democracy is not a perfect system, but a work in progress, and demand for separate state is to try better, not divide bitter. Still one and same country.

      • Aravind says:

        Srinivas,

        Some people do give up their seats to elderly. If people did not have humanity or charity, we would not see so many NGOs and govt organizations that help and assist poor, elderly. I am not sure if u would burn the state for a few govt jobs when you could get a better private sector job with little hard work.

        How is a new state with better system of governance possible? Does that mean all current politicians will start doing wonders and all-round development of the region once they get new state? This is naivete to think somehow people will elect right leaders, leaders spread development equally across all regions, and all people get jobs, once a new state is formed.

        You are correct. Elections should decide matters, not street protests, bandhs, strikes etc. Let all voters in Telangana elect TRS or other parties they believe will get them new state and let assembly and Parliament decide on these issues. If govts need the support of elected members of Telangana, let them come to an agreement on the issue. BJP has already said they will create the state if elected to power. Why don’t we stick to constitutional means? Yes, it is the same country and democracy, why not use power of vote (like used for by-elections) to effect change?

  4. I appreciate the very well-balanced nature of the article that articulated the grievances of Telangana people succinctly. I am myself from coastal Andhra and have no problem empathising with/ favoring the separation of the two regions. though, as the writer so clearly put it, separation may or may not solve all the problems, but any attempts at reconciliation will yet again be an unsavoury exercise where neither side would be negotiating in good faith. There will only be more GO’s issued, more committees formed and voluminous reports published, all to achieve nothing.

    The only question I have is, if all the injustices perpetrated (real or perceived) had bothered them so much, for the past 55 years of our combined statehood, why have the 119 MLAs of Telangana region not taken up the cause of their electoral masters? Can anybody say that the Andhra legislators arm-twisted them, or locked them up? Why didn’t a TRS like regional movement emerge lot earlier, if their grievances weren’t being addressed? My only suspicion is, the animosities aren’t really deep rooted and the elected representatives HAD NO DESIRE for a separate Telangana, until maybe , just 3, 4 years ago. Where was Gaddar all these years and didn’t KCR and so many others serve in cabinets for years without ever uttering “jai Telangana’

    As for the question of use of coastal telugu as Praamaanika Bhasha, why dump dirt and break statues of Nannaya and Tikkana? It just so happens that up until 19th century (it’s only my guess, I just don’t know0, probably there was no renowned story teller or novelist who wrote in telangana dialect and also was widely read and published – are the telugus of coastal districts to be blamed for that? as far as media coverage is concerned, I think Deccan Chronicle was in print for over 5 decades – what did they do to promote telengana interests? Isn’t it childish and ridiculouus for the fanatic fringe in Telangana movement to debunk “Maa Telugu thalliki …” and create a new “Telangana Thalli”?

    I don’t mean to say that the writer is supporting any of these positions – my point simply is, that there is plenty of blame to go around on both sides. But at this stage, i too think it is time for us to part as friends and brothers, rather than stay together with rancour and suspicion in our hearts.

    • Aravind says:

      Good points… I wonder what people in Telangana answer when asked about the mother tongue. I would answer Telugu and I don’t have problem with Telugu thalli as it is not ‘Andhra Thalli’.

    • Ram says:

      In India, because of lack of primary system(like in USA), leaders of political parties have tremendous power unlike in USA. All parties in the state are led by Andhra leaders most of the time if not all the time. It’s very hard or impossible for a MLA to take his/her constituents side against the wishes of their party leaders or Chief Minsters. Also, Telangana MLAs are minority in the assembly where they form 119 out of 294members.
      Telangana MLAs have to fight their Andhra party leaders, Andhra dominated Bureaucracy, Judges, media, Andhra lobby (funded by rich Andhra businesses and farmers); in order to fight for the interests of Telangana. Most politicians take easy route and not fight with ruling establishment and get some personal benefits. This is going on for too long; and people convinced that Telangana will get justice only
      when they have their own state. Last 10 years, Telangana movement became election issue; there is tremendous pressure from public and politicians to do justice to Telangana. Even then one can see so much bias against Telangana projects or development. What can we expect in normal times when the movement cools down?

    • Ram says:

      Telugu talli statue was designed by Andhra leaders in early 20th century when they was part of Madras presidency and when they were asking for seperate state. Telangana people were not part of the movement(They were in Hyderabad state and they were having their own problems). They were not involved in design of Telugu talli statue. After Andhra state formed in 1953 out of Madras state, importance of Telugu talli statue is not there any more. After, Jai Telangana and jai Andhra movements (1969-1973), Govt tried to bring back the Telugu talli statue to bring the unity in Telugu people.

      Telugu talli is just a symblol. But symbols don’t bring unity. Justice and respect for each other will bring unity.

  5. Rao says:

    Aravind,

    As you said not only Telangana is underdeveloped even Andhra and Seema has also undeveloped but According to the Backward Regions Grant Fund 2009–10, 13 backward districts are located in Andhra Pradesh; 9 (Except Hyderabad) are from Telangana region and the rest are from other regions.

    Yes you’re correct there was no active movement before 2009 but to start any GENUINE MOVEMENT people need a Leader, he may be good or bad,,, if it is not a genuine reason people do not support him… If you see the current situation the movement is not in any Leaders hand… now it is with people.

    I think now people from Telangana (not leaders) are just fed up with all these committees, Reports, GO and agreements. Just they are looking for separate state.

    • Aravind says:

      Rao,

      Nothing wrong with asking a separate state but the means are as important as ends. Would you abandon constitutional means and decide issues on the streets with fasts, strikes and bandhs?

      • Vijay Bantu says:

        Aravind garu,

        Constitutional method as per democracy is casting vote. Thats been cast and political parties have included Telangana as part of thier manifestos. And agreed to Ministry of Home Affairs on Dec 9th to carve out a state. A U-turn happened afterwards. Thats undemocratic.

        Whats the way for people if democracy itself fails? This is result of failure of democracy but not the means employed by people to exert pressure in unfair way.

        It is true that there is no planned and deliberate suppression by Andhraites. They simpy latched on to the first possible jobs and network recommendations went to alarming proportions not only in govt. jobs but also in private sector. Look at any Pvt Ltd company and you’ll see slew of people from one particular region (throw in caste too… disgusting), or movie industry, majority of people from as lowly as junior artistes are from one particular area. Result was compounding over generations. Though all this is non-deliberate, suppression did result.

        Everybody has opinion and is entitled to one. But for most of Andhraites its a percieved fear when there won’t be any affect on them at all. They still will be welcome, can do business. And for people who’ve stayed here for long will be eligible for government jobs as well. So how is it really unfair is a little confusting.

  6. Sasidhar Kalagara says:

    The only way to remove these differences and apprehensions of the people is to fight for Decentralization of power. If the power is decentralized then there is no option to pin point on others about the development of their own village or town or city.

    I see the current politicians who or so called fighting for Telangana is a family group and is trying to take over the state and eat it completely. All of these leaders on both sides are creating unnecessary differences between people of both the regions.

    My only question is if one region is supressed then what are these elected leaders of this region doing for last few decades to fight for the best interests of their people and make sure their people are not supressed by others.

    I don’t see any difference will carve out for a common man even after seperation. My only suggestion to all the leaders creating unnecessary and false apprehensions in people to stop that and start putting a plan on what they are going to do after a new state is formed. How they are going to develop and what change they are going to bring in a honest manner. Then no one can stop this moment.

  7. Ram says:

    See the editorial of Golconda patrika (only Telangana Teugu news paper back then), the day after Nehru announced the merger of Telangana and Andhra in 1956.

    Editorial: Telangana future(March 7, 1956)
    http://www.pressacademyarchives.ap.nic.in/Archives/pressacademyarchives/STATE_CENTRAL_LIBRARY_AFZALGUNJ/GOLCONDAPATRIKA/100426_GOLCONDAPATRIKA_07_03_1956_Volume_No_9_Issue_No_68/00000002.pdf

    Editorial: Testing time (March 8, 1956)
    http://www.pressacademyarchives.ap.nic.in/Archives/pressacademyarchives/STATE_CENTRAL_LIBRARY_AFZALGUNJ/GOLCONDAPATRIKA/100532_GOLCONDAPATRIKA_08_03_1956_Volume_No_9_Issue_No_69/00000002.pdf

    What were the expectations of Telangana people after the merger. They were suspecious of the merger. They took the chance believing protections will work. What is the reality today. Central govt have to correct this mistake and undo the merger.

  8. Srinivas says:

    Aravind,
    No one said here to burn state for getting few jobs. Also asking some one to work hard to get a job is insulting not policy making. It is a good question to ask how new state would be a better system of governance. True, no guarantees, but enough reasons to be optimistic. There will be separate budget for the region, and assured fair share of river waters. Separate state will not make heaven. But with assured money and water lot of hellish conditions can be avoided.

    One correction:Voters in Telangana have been electing whatever party that supports new state and not other. It is unfair to say people have not tried constitutional means. Folks voted parties that supported new state, and booted others. Even so, no difference.

    Why are teachers, lawyers, doctors, employees etc., are taking to streets when their elected
    representatives are on their side fighting for the same thing? What alternatives do they have? They voted, made representatives to fight for them, still no way can assembly pass a resolution as they cannot become majority. Parliament would not care until next elections. Same thing repeats.

    Finally, those interested in keeping status quo, neither step forward to offer any safeguards nor address even some issues causing more trust-deficit. Nothing done and no plans to do any. Allowing sore to fester is not the best way to treat body or body politic.

    • Aravind says:

      Srinivas…

      Let me tell you one thing. If Cong, TDP, TRS MLAs from Telangana put a list of projects/issues, instead of asking separate state, and threaten to resign if the problems are not solved, you will see that UPA and state govt will immediately take interest in solving problems on warfooting. If we look at it pragmatically, the issue is we have problems unresolved since years and separate state is NOT the real issue. Let the region representatives come up with list of 20-100 issues plaguing the region and put pressure on govts to solve them and threaten to resign if unsolved. Both govts are running on slender majority and they will be forced by their loss of power and alternative is a bigger problem (i.e. separate state). I am just suggesting this as a possible solution as both sides do not want to budge from their stand. After all, we need to live in the same country as brothers and there is language and culture that binds us. No point in hating others.

  9. M.C.RAJU says:

    I am from Oduru ( Village) new Gudur Nellore Dt. AP. My village was having about 250 families and do agriculture (purely based on rain water). Since last one decade, there was no sufficient rain( even if it was there in couple of years, the tank was not enought to hold sufficient want for the full crop). So all villagers sold their fields to a person from Hyd/Vijayawad for Acre 25 thousands in 2005. My dad’s land about 2 acres sold at that price. ( Ofcourse its now 5 lakhs an acre). All villagers became coolies for that big owner. Is it not under developed. Telugu ganga water canal passes to Chennai about 25 KM away from that place. Still we dont get water. Does that mean all that villagers should fight to get merge in to Tamilnadu or Separate place. If politicians works hard to get things done, it will work out. If they dont work, and if we people dont question, it never be better than this.

    I also have a question, In India North eastern states ( Most of the people doesn’t even care for those states), some of the states are fighting for separate country as they are not develped in United India, does that mean we will divide them with a friendly nature as a separate country and that will be a friend of India. (If I mistated anything please correct me). But Unless and until politicians change, our life wont change. Common man will still struggle whether its a separate TG State or United AP.

    • Srinivas says:

      Raju garu
      It is sad to compare state aspirations to dividing country. Country is one, but states can and will be many. It is incorrect to say some states are fighting for separate country. Only some sections of one state and even that with active support of our neighbor.

      There are many parched lands and poor people in all regions. Question is where are they more preponderant is what sociologists study to declare backwardness of areas. Excluding Hyd all districts of Telangana are classified as backward by central govt. That is not to say pain of poverty is less in other areas, but magnitude is much larger there.

  10. Sudheer says:

    Great article, and more than that I liked the responses and the conversation; all sane comments. I stopped reading Telangana articles long time ago since most the data is biased and ppl involved make insane comments. This definitely is an anamoly. I wish we hv our leaders think and talk the same way.
    PS: I was born and raised in Telangana now settled in Andhra.

  11. vijayabhargava says:

    brothers i do agree that there might be injustice happened to the people over T region.But just think whether partition is the only way to get out of it.
    because if u take the number of people representing T state, more than a 100 of them are there in Assembly and many in parliament also. When the people representing andhra can develop their place ( as supposed) why these people of T state failed to do so…

    second Q is what is the fate of people residing in US or any country outside, say that indians do take away jobs from us and start massive opposition and do we have a right to protest against it?

    after all, its political drama because even KCR was silent before 10 yrs back when he was in TDP and dont he know about the injustice and all other stuff before he start TRS and y all of a sudden…

    first we educated should make people understand that it is not fault with people (andhra or rayalaseema or T) but its only the leaders who are playing politics..

    just imagine the fate of Chattisgarh, jharkhand and uttaranchal..what development had happened after partition and As claimed by BJP, that when it was in power, TDP (its alliance)did not agrree to partition and so we did not give T state. HOw foolish answer it is..so this is called situtational politics and now they fight for a separate T state.
    and really if separatte state demand is happening, it should happen first with ralayaseema the worst drought hit area and ill developed but they r not asking it..
    please understand ….
    and correct me if i am wrong.

    • Vijay Bantu says:

      Vijay,

      If you are really thinking Andhra politicians are more progressive and that resulted in development, I beg to differ. Politicians are of same color no matter what they show from outside. Your own point of 100 people only in the assembly always worked against them. Please understand that it’s not simply the political differentiation which caused this uproar but there are plethora of things like cultural hegemony, unfair share of water allocations and most important of all not withholding the promise of political equality.

      One of the biggest concerns raised by people supporting non-bifurcation is their dislike and attribution of hidden motives of KCR, while conveniently forgetting that it’s people of all walks of life from telangana are unconditionally supporting that. My request to you and all who are with your thought process is, why are so many people who basically don’t benefit anything personally would support such a cause? Isn’t it a question of great introspection? Dont get me wrong. This is not directed at you implying you did something to a person from Telangana which they are now asking you to take the responsibility. Instead it’s a question that should be asked by everybody as of why is it that so many people collectively are supporting the idea?

      Coming to your example of US, yes people have every right to protest that their jobs be kept onshore not be outsourced. There is no justification in state of Texas government’s jobs be outsourced to bangalore/Hyderabad. But from US point of view they have only two choices, either to outsource or to import talent. They have shortage of skills labor there. In Telangana organized and unorganized sector is monopolized by people from Andhra which wouldn’t have happened if states were not merged. Common unskilled jobs and even skilled jobs could have been with them.

      I however completely agree that it’s not the fault of any individual’s from Andhra. As they say, every efficient government finds a ways to tax it’s citizens and every smart citizen exercises his/her right to ‘legally’ evade it as much as possible, everyone in personal capacity tries to secure a job bit demographically governments must ensure that the distribution is equitable. that did not happen.

      Well small states are great for administration. I don’t agree with you on chattisgarh but Jharkand was disappointment. That is because of lack of proper leadership. Chattisgarh on the other hand is doing great progress. In fact it is doing better than all of Indian states.

      Sincerely
      Vijay

  12. Yaksh says:

    To all those supporting the formation of a separate state of telangana, I just want to ask one simple and basic question. We, the people living in telangana region have voted & elected local leaders from telangana region for the past 55 years for the post of MPs, MLAs, Municipal councillors, sarpanchs, etc in the successive national & local body elections. We did not vote for the people of Andhra & Rayalaseema regions because they never stood in these elections as they were not born in this region or were not from this region. It was & is the duty of such leaders from telangana to serve as peoples representatives and to work hard for the development of this region. Getting elected as a MP or an MLA is no small thing as many sincere & duty-bound MPs & MLAs from rest of the country have been doing wonders to the development of their respective constituencies. Even a non-elected person like Anna Hazare, a social service activist, generated massive public support with his non-violent methods and has managed to bring down the national government to its knees for the noble cause of passing a comprehensive & effective anti-corruption bill. And all that was for a greater national cause. In comparison, an elected people’s representative of the status of a MP or a MLA can do much more for the development activities of his/her respective constituency as he would have the inherent local public support & more than that a MP or a MLA would have access to central & state government funds allotted to his/her constituency in every year of the national & state budgets. Where is all that money going? Who is accountable for all funds coming from the central & state governments ? I am sorry to say that a major chunk of it is only going into the pockets of the politicians of telangana region who are exploiting the poor, illiterate people of the region. Why is telangana region so backward ? It is because of high illiteracy levels when compared to Andhra & Rayalaseema regions. What is stopping these so-called MPs & MLAs to open schools in every village of the region & provide free education to its children? I find it ridiculous when KCR & his fellow TRS leaders repeatedly point out that Telangana region is backward because of leaders from Andhra & Seema regions who exploited natural resources from telangana region for the development of their regions. Even the leaders of Congress & TDP from the region have joined KCR in this mud-slinging, which I find highly distressing. I remember a saying of the famous telugu poet Sri Sri & is also cited often by our beloved telugu leader & freedom fighter Tanguturu Prakasam -“Desam ante matti kadoi, desam ante manushuloi”. (The nation is not formed because of land but is formed because of people) As a sincere Indian, I raise my voice & ask what have the numerous MPs & MLAs from the Telangana region have done for the past 55 years for the development of their constituencies ??? Even though there have been corruption cases registered against Jagan (and I hope those charges be proven), as a MP he has dramatically transformed the development activities of his constituency Cuddapah over the last 5 years. For all the telangana leaders, I want to cite a famous proverb from a popular bollywood movie – “Jinke ghar sheeshe se bane woh doosre pe pathar nahi pheka karte”. (Those whose homes are made of glass, they are not supposed to throw stones at other people’s homes). Food for thought for all the gullible people of telangana region. Think over this before you react.

    • Vijay Bantu says:

      Yaksh

      I totally sympathize with that poor guy. But please understand that exemplifying one personal experience and attributing that to whole of a movement is looking at it very narrowly. If I gave you an example that every time I visit Andhra lot of people there not knowing where I came from and where my allegiance lies throw comments at telanganites saying “those guys will go for dogs if a separate state is given”, doesn’t justify my point of view. This is not personal vendetta. If I made my opinions based on incidents like that then I am as much a bigot as any other is.

      I would rather want people make educated, scientific and honest opinions. Don’t Attribute it to KCR only but to the people who are supporting the idea of bifurcation.

      If you follow a litle closely you will notice that people are getting more educated and they won’t really allow careless leaders to make public policies for them anymore. Be that TRS, Congress, TDP, or BJP. It’s not leaders who rule us. That frame of mind itself is dangerous. It’s the people who choose who will them. I hope this is the platform.

  13. Srinivas says:

    I agree a lot with Yaksh and Vijayabhargava. One correction: State formation is not partition, at any place and at any time. Absolutely nothing in common between them. Shocking and sad to even put both together. After independence, many states were formed including AP. Nothing to do with partition of nation. Still same one nation. People can and will decide to form/reform/deform states, or even merge states. Why not?

    Forget politicians, why are teachers, employees, doctors, lawyers etc. protesting? Does this stop if any leader dies tomorrow? Saying one person, KCR or whoever, can mobilize so many across different cross-sections seems giving too much credit than they deserve.

    >..what have the numerous MPs & MLAs from the Telangana region have done for the past 55
    > years for the development of their constituencies???

    Good question. Answer is the proverb: fish rots from the head down. What did Chief ministers of AP and Prime ministers of India do for past 55 years for developement of nine backward districts of Telangana? MP(Jagan) did not develop Cuddapah, CM(YSR) granted funds to Vemana university, Medical college and all the highway roads leading to wherever. All MLA’s of Telangana do not have power to make or enforce fair allocation of river waters even today. Irrigation minister can inaugurate pipelines, but cannot make bucket of water flow through them. Taxation without representation is the problem pervasive not only to AP, but
    across many places in India, today.

    Very recent and in public memory is instance of last minute shifting of IIT from Basar in
    backward dist of Adilabad to closer to Hyd, even after feasibility studies were long completed and got all necessary approvals. Some institute was put as substitute in consolation. Not that
    one college makes difference, but this is one example of political sabotaging against policy-led
    programs. Backwardness does not happen overnight- it is result of long neglect and people are tired of waiting. System is badly broken and not serving well.

    All agreements, GO’s, 6-point formulas, safeguards put forward earlier by govt were broken, leading to trust-deficit today. Separate state may/may not yield all good outcomes, but people
    are desperate to try something new. Also saying only Telangana politicians are to be blamed for their backwardness sounds ignorant at best, and racist at worst. Its like saying inefficiency is
    monopoly of particular region. And people born elsewhere are super efficient. Also not sure if
    people in Telangana are more gullible than elsewhere. No gullible ones can remain so too long.

    Strangely, those who wish to keep state in present form, neither want to work out some committed budget allocations for each region, nor want to even talk about fair allocation of river waters across regions. Because those are hard, but giving statements saying some minister is from that region etc., is easy.

    “Jinke ghar sheeshe se bane woh doosre pe pathar nahi pheka karte” is a nice dialogue. Poor imitation of that good dialog may be:
    “jisnE ghar ,noukri, paisa, tabyat sab khOgaya, uskO bachaa kyaa hai patthar kE sivA”

    • Yaksh says:

      My reference to the dialogue “Jinke ghar sheeshe se bane woh doosre pe pathar nahi pheka karte” was intended for some of the the corrupt & two-faced politicians of TRS party. I want to go in detail on this. The older children of these leaders of TRS party are studying in USA universities while the younger ones are studying in the rich international schools around Hyderabad. These “NRI” schools were functioning till Sept 30 while those schools where the majority of children of common people in Hyderabad are studying were forced to shut down by 23th of September. The term examinations in these schools were supposed to be held from 23th to 30 Sept (just before Dasara holidays) but couldn’t be held in time due to some of these selfish politicians whose kids could complete their exams in the “international schools” before they could happily go for a short vacation for the festival. “The common man” is the one who is suffering as his innocent kids are constantly faced with unseen levels of stress and don’t even can enjoy a good festival with family and friends.

  14. Yaksh says:

    I am from Telangana, so are my parents and my grandparents & their parents. The other day on a hot weekend afternoon in Hyderabad, I went to buy in some drink coconuts (Kobbari bondam or nariyal pani) for me and my family from a local street vendor. I happened to witness a particular incident which shocked me to no end.

    This particular coconut vendor had come from Nellore district nearly 6 years ago and had began selling coconut water in my locality in Hyderabad on his typical 4 wheel cart at the roadside and at very reasonable prices. He has neatly categorised the coconuts based on its estimated water content and selling it to customers at Rs. 7, Rs. 10 & Rs. 15, respectively as displayed. He even does door-deliveries to customers in the locality, after his business hours (after 7 pm) & free-of-cost. With this business, he supports a family of 6 (his old parents, his wife & his two kids aged 4 and 7). He had a bicycle to start with and had purchased a second-hand moped just last year. He sends his kids to a small private school, which is nearly 3 kms away.

    Now, since I was quite familar with him, I always approach him to buy the drink coconuts. So on that day, as I was buying the coconuts from him, a couple of men dropped by to purchase some coconuts. By their look & accent, these men happened to be cab drivers from telangana region. They seemed to be fairly well to do since they owned their cabs & had some gold jewellery adorning their necks and fingers 7 were not from the locality. Now came the flash point. They told the coconut vendor to take 4 large coconuts (priced Rs. 15) and as soon as he parcelled & gave it to them and asked for the money, these men started hurling abuses on the poor guy and said that would only pay Rs. 7 each for them. They even threatened him that they would come back with more men that night & will destroy his cart & warned him to go back to Andhra. Since I was quite familar with the pricing logic of these coconuts (depending on the size & water contents), I knew that the coconut vendor was fair in asking for said prices. The poor coconut vendor had no choice and was forcibly made to sell these large coconuts for the price of the small ones.

    When small traders like this coconut vendor are not secure in the prevailing situation, what can the people from Andhra who are settled in every nook & corner of Hyderabad hope for ? Or for that matter, people from other states in the country who have settled in Hyderabad for decades could expect to when a few selfish leaders are creating unwarranted tensions among innocent people based on feeling of regionalism. TRS party is another MNS party (Maharashtra) in the making.

    • Vijay Bantu says:

      Sorry I Replied on wrong post above.
      ————-

      Yaksh

      I totally sympathize with that poor guy. But please understand that exemplifying one personal experience and attributing that to whole of a movement is looking at it very narrowly. If I gave you an example that every time I visit Andhra lot of people there not knowing where I came from and where my allegiance lies throw comments at telanganites saying “those guys will go for dogs if a separate state is given”, doesn’t justify my point of view. This is not personal vendetta. If I made my opinions based on incidents like that then I am as much a bigot as any other is.

      I would rather want people make educated, scientific and honest opinions. Don’t Attribute it to KCR only but to the people who are supporting the idea of bifurcation.

      If you follow a litle closely you will notice that people are getting more educated and they won’t really allow careless leaders to make public policies for them anymore. Be that TRS, Congress, TDP, or BJP. It’s not leaders who rule us. That frame of mind itself is dangerous. It’s the people who choose who will them. I hope this is the platform.

  15. Srinivas says:

    Injustice any where must be condemned, prosecuted and corrected. No place for it in public policy.

    It is a shame people have to come to streets for something that must have been decided by elections, if not commissions. Again case of fish rotting from head down. Two elections and a Supreme court judge with members well fed, royally treated with conveniences and administrative support, all at taxpayers’ expense, could not result in any change in situation. Not one bit. What did people get for all that cost of feeding irresponsible intellectuals? Nothing. At least that money would have fetched lots and lots of coconuts’ water for many, even if original problem not solved.

    Also blaming one party TRS will not get us any where. Any one who owns a piece of land knows-numerous land grabbing cases are done with support of Congress or ruling parties of all colors. Complaining children of politicians go to US for studies is irrelevant. Instead checking and prosecuting ill-gotten wealth by them(or whoever) is good for country and economy. Well earned income can be used by even politicians to send their kids to wherever, even moon for vacations. Public can ask how money is earned, not how it is spent. Nobody’s business how any one spends.

    It is true common man suffers most. But all employees, teachers, doctors, lawyers etc. are also common people and why should they protest? System broken and needs big repair soon. Those who want separate state feel betrayed and taken for a ride. Those who don’t speak unity but don’t want to sit down to try resolving differences. Utter inaction. Seems even kids act more responsibly.

  16. by and large, agree with the things discussed, 1 Q what made you to skip Congress in the Reversing of their decision on Dec 10th; When u blame TDP, PRP, u also should blame Congress at the same time; Is nt it? If chidamabarm agreed and knew that there is a consensus to declare TELANGANA on DEc 9th night, whu LAGADAPATI< KJAVURI< RAYAPATI, JC Diwakar Reddy from Congress resigned first and then TDP followed and then PRP followed. By saying TDP, PRP reversed the decision, u r sparing Congress;

  17. Sumit says:

    I find it difficult to accept “Cultural Denigration and Suppression”. Either the instances related to this is limited to Hyderabad or there is a case of inferiority complex being fanned out in this aspect. I had a tough time winning approval of a couple of Telangana (Warangal) classmates in Chennai on some matters where we were all in a hostel. They constantly ridiculed my Vizianagaram accent calling it backward and funny. I had all the time attributed to the general xenophobia one experiences when coming in contact with other cultures. They also made mockery of customs and practices of coastal AP in a rather uncharitable manner to the point of calling us uncultured. Now, these things are something hostel dwellers experience all the time and none meant to be taken personally. End of the day we were still friends and continue to be.

    If the cultural denigration is for real, this would be the pivot of their behavior. Instead they denigrated my own culture and language in a manner showing lack of any empathy one would associate with someone experiencing the same. They were plainly ragging me for being different than they. So you see, what is considered as cultural denigration is being reciprocated in the same manner as you suggest by the very people who you say were at its receiving end.
    On a different note, I must say they were more tolerant towards the end of our college term and I actually managed to include words from Telangana Telugu into my own speech subconciously.

    I suggest we lowest credence to Cultural Denigration and Suppression amongst all the causes of separation

    • Sundeep says:

      I see your point, Sumit. Thank you for sharing your experience. It’s been a while since I wrote this, and I see things differently now. This post would be quite different if I wrote it today. The other post on language and culture is on more solid ground, I think.

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